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'has-page-type-'+doc.type.toLowerCase() : ''\" class=\"page-wrap text-color-primary bg-color-secondary pr ng-scope has-page-type-story\"> <div class=\"everything-after-nav ng-scope\" id=\"js-everything-after-nav\"> <div dynamic=\"html\" class=\"page-container\" rbma-preview=\"\"><div rbma-story-page=\"\" doc=\"doc\" data=\"pageData\" class=\"ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\"><article class=\"page\"> <header elementary=\"\" class=\"mod header header--story\" data-role=\"header\" data-minwidth=\"320 420 576 768 1024 1280 1420\"> <h1 class=\"headline-main ng-binding\">Key Tracks: Chuck D on “Public Enemy No. 1”</h1> <!-- ngIf: doc.subtitle --> </header> <div class=\"body-wrap\"> <div rbma-blocks=\"doc.body\" blocks-name=\"'body'\" class=\"body text-layout--center ng-isolate-scope\"><div rbma-text-block=\"\" id=\"body-0\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-text style-normal ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><div bind-compiled-html=\"block.text | markdown\"><p class=\"ng-scope\">In light of our recently published <a href=\"https://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/public-enemy-at-rikers-oral-history\" target=\"_blank\">oral history of Public Enemy’s performance at Rikers Island</a>, we decided to dip into Chuck D’s <a href=\"https://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lectures/chuck-d-truck-turner-strikes-again\" target=\"_blank\">2008 lecture</a> at the Academy for the next edition of our <span class=\"links-to-collection-page info-box ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"{'is-expanded': expanded}\" href=\"/key-tracks\" links-to-collection-page=\"\" rbma-lazy-link=\"\" slug=\"key-tracks\" pagetype=\"collection\"> <span class=\"info-box__trigger text-underline\" ng-click=\"toggleBox($event)\" ng-transclude=\"\"><span class=\"ng-scope\">Key Tracks</span></span> <span class=\"info-box__box bg-color-body text-color-secondary type-sans-serif\"> <a ui-sref=\"collection({slug: slug})\" class=\"info-box__box__title ng-binding\" href=\"/key-tracks\"></a> <div class=\"info-box__box__description ng-binding\"></div> <div class=\"info-box__box__stories\"> <!-- ngRepeat: page in pages --> </div> <a ui-sref=\"collection({slug: slug})\" class=\"info-box__box__link\" href=\"/key-tracks\">View all</a> </span> </span> series. Here, the PE frontman chats about one of the group’s earliest tunes, the Fred Wesley-sampling “Public Enemy No. 1.”</p></div></div><div rbma-video-block=\"\" id=\"body-1\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-video alignment-center ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><!-- ngIf: videoID && !withOptions --><div class=\"ng-scope\" ng-if=\"videoID &amp;&amp; !withOptions\"> <!-- ngIf: !showPoster || !block.poster --><div ng-if=\"!showPoster || !block.poster\" ng-bind-html=\"videoEmbed\" class=\"video-player ng-binding ng-scope\"><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCvGX1Os35s\">Watch on YouTube</a></div><!-- end ngIf: !showPoster || !block.poster --> <div ng-init=\"showPoster = true\" ng-click=\"showPoster=false\"> <!-- ngIf: showPoster && block.poster --> </div> </div><!-- end ngIf: videoID && !withOptions --> <div class=\"figure__caption\" bind-compiled-html=\"block.video.caption|inlinemarkdown\"><span class=\"ng-scope\">Public Enemy - Public Enemy Number One (Live 1987)</span></div> <!-- ngIf: withOptions --></div><div rbma-quote-block=\"\" id=\"body-2\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-quote alignment-left size-medium ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><blockquote> <div ng-bind-html=\"block.text | markdown\" class=\"ng-binding\"><p>We wanted to make some music that your girlfriend was going to hate.</p></div> <!-- ngIf: block.source --> </blockquote></div><div rbma-text-block=\"\" id=\"body-3\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-text style-normal ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><div bind-compiled-html=\"block.text | markdown\"><p class=\"ng-scope\">We didn’t make the sounds on “Public Enemy No. 1.” We wanted to be able to make a new arrangement of the sounds [from our records]. We had a knowledge of the records, we had a respect for the records and the different genres. Our thing was trying to make it all work. We didn’t know where R&amp;B was in the mid-’80s. We thought the worst thing that ever happened to it was the use of synthesizers, or rather when synthesizers started to use the musician.</p>\n\n<p class=\"ng-scope\"><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Wonder\" target=\"_blank\">Stevie Wonder</a> would pimp the hell out of a synthesizer, but synthesizers and drum machines started to use the producer. So you would have this corny ass [<em>makes beat with mouth</em>] that we wanted to rebel against. Most music made from 1979 to 1986 – except for rap records and a few organic records – was terrible, just wack. We wanted to make some music that your girlfriend was going to hate. [<em>laughs</em>] That was definitely the goal for me. I know if my girlfriend, who later became my wife, doesn’t like it, then we’ve got some hot shit here. I’m making some shit that makes you say, “Turn that shit off.”</p></div></div><div rbma-image-block=\"\" id=\"body-4\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-image alignment-center ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><figure class=\"figure\"> <img rbma-image=\"block.image\" class=\"figure__media ng-isolate-scope\" src=\"https://media.redbullmusicacademy.com/assets/1375531915_0front.17e0108f.jpg?auto=format&amp;w=700\"> <!-- ngIf: block.credit || block.caption --> </figure></div><div rbma-text-block=\"\" id=\"body-5\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-text style-normal ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><div bind-compiled-html=\"block.text | markdown\"><p class=\"ng-scope\"><a href=\"https://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/fred-wesley-interview\" target=\"_blank\">Fred Wesley</a>’s \"Blow Your Head\" was always a record I liked. There’s a whole ‘nother story behind me getting that record, which involved me going over to some chick’s house and asking her for the record after I didn’t get what I came for. [<em>laughs</em>] “OK, baby, whatever, can I have this record?” It was a record that was always played in the roller rink, but the DJs didn’t have enough skill to extend the break. It’s a tough break, it’s [<em>imitates Fred Wesley - Blow Your Head synth intro</em>]. I thought, “If someone would keep this shit going...”</p></div></div><div rbma-quote-block=\"\" id=\"body-6\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-quote alignment-right size-medium ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><blockquote> <div ng-bind-html=\"block.text | markdown\" class=\"ng-binding\"><p>Our whole thing is, “How can we present something that will make you feel uncomfortable?”</p></div> <!-- ngIf: block.source --> </blockquote></div><div rbma-text-block=\"\" id=\"body-7\" block=\"block\" class=\"block block-text style-normal ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-class=\"paramsClasses\"><div bind-compiled-html=\"block.text | markdown\"><p class=\"ng-scope\">I made the first demo by pausing a cassette, like people made the old pause mixtapes, just by going over and over two tape decks. There were a couple of glitches because it wasn’t perfect timing, but I could rhyme over it and the rhyme connected the pieces together seamlessly. When we tried to make it in the studio for our first Def Jam release, we were able to duplicate it but <a href=\"https://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/people/hank-shocklee\" target=\"_blank\">Hank [Shocklee]</a> and I considered it too clean. The breaks in the pause tape gave it that funkiness of feel and direction.</p>\n\n<p class=\"ng-scope\">The hi-hats I played separately, the beat is enhanced by <a href=\"https://www.allmusic.com/artist/eric-vietnam-sadler-mn0000187725\" target=\"_blank\">Eric Sadler</a> in the studio, <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor_Flav\" target=\"_blank\">Flav</a>, the musicians, they added to the sample with the kick behind it, half-live, half-sampled. It was hard for a lot of DJs to mix because it wasn’t syncopated correctly. Listen to it: You can’t go: “One, two, three, four.” People got into making structured jazz records, eight bars here, counting four bars. We felt that could lead to burn out for the audience. You might offer different sounds, but if every song you deliver is three-and-a-half to four minutes, and they begin the same way... People talk about hot 16 [bars], but why can’t it be a hot 17 or a hot 13-and-a-half? People are afraid to go outside the structure they’re comfortable with. Our whole thing is, “How can we present something that will make you feel uncomfortable?” Don’t deal in comfort.\n&nbsp;</p></div></div></div> <div class=\"body text-layout--center\"> <div class=\"meta meta--story mw-l is-centered--h\"> <div class=\"fl pr-l\"></div> <!-- ngIf: doc.firstPublished || doc.authors.length --><p class=\"oh pt-xs ng-scope\" ng-if=\"doc.firstPublished || doc.authors.length\"> <!-- ngIf: doc.authors.length --><span class=\"meta__author ng-scope\" ng-if=\"doc.authors.length\">By <author-link authors=\"doc.authors\" class=\"ng-isolate-scope\"><!-- ngRepeat: author in authors --><span ng-repeat=\"author in authors\" class=\"ng-scope\"><!-- ngIf: authors.length > 2 && !$first --> <!-- ngIf: authors.length > 1 && $last --> <!-- ngIf: author.type == 'document' --><a class=\"underlined ng-scope ng-isolate-scope\" ng-if=\"author.type == 'document'\" rbma-lazy-title=\"\" slug=\"author.document.typeSlug.split(':')[1]\" pagetype=\"'author'\" href=\"/author/chuck-d\">Chuck D</a><!-- end ngIf: author.type == 'document' --><!-- ngIf: author.type == 'name' --></span><!-- end ngRepeat: author in authors --></author-link></span><!-- end ngIf: doc.authors.length --> <!-- ngIf: doc.firstPublished --><span class=\"meta__date ng-binding ng-scope\" ng-if=\"doc.firstPublished\"> <!-- ngIf: doc.authors.length --><span ng-if=\"doc.authors.length\" class=\"ng-scope\">on </span><!-- end ngIf: doc.authors.length --> April 29, 2013 </span><!-- end ngIf: doc.firstPublished --> </p><!-- end ngIf: doc.firstPublished || doc.authors.length --> </div> </div> </div> </article> <structured-story-data><div ng-bind-html=\"trustedHtml\" class=\"ng-binding\"><script type=\"application/ld+json\">\n  {\n    \"@context\": \"https://schema.org\",\n    \"@type\": \"Article\",\n    \"headline\": \"Key Tracks: Chuck D on “Public Enemy No. 1” | Red Bull Music Academy Daily\",\n    \"image\": \"https://media.redbullmusicacademy.com/assets/601/18/704/chuck-d-key-tracks-title.jpg?auto=format&w=800\",\n    \"datePublished\": \"2013-04-29T08:00:00Z\",\n    \"description\": \"\"\n  }\n  </script></div></structured-story-data> </div></div>  <!-- ngIf: isPreview --> </div> <!-- ngIf: doc.additionalMarkup --></div> <notification><!-- ngIf: !waitingForScroll && !notification.dismissed && notification.data.showNotification --> <!-- ngIf: notification.sitsInline --></notification> <!--[if lt IE 9]>\n    <script src=\"scripts/oldieshim.16d1f762019.js\"></script>\n    <![endif]--> <script src=\"scripts/\"></script> <script src=\"scripts/\"></script> <script src=\"undefined?forceLang=en&amp;linkColor=999&amp;bgColor=000\"></script>  ","slug":"/2013/04/key-tracks-chuck-d-on-public-enemy-no-1","metaImage":"601/18/704/chuck-d-key-tracks-title.jpg","description":"The Red Bull Music Academy Daily is the online publication by the Red Bull Music Academy, a global music institution committed to fostering creativity in music. 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